higher than that, so the implication is that, like we said in our report, twitter could be from a valuation perspective stretched from the start. >> and that means, hillary, you made this point. that there is a price at which it's worth investing, and this could be all over the place. who knows. this thing could shoot up by $10 tomorrow, but that's not basis my viewers should be basing their decision on whether or not to invest in twitter. >> that's right, but your point hit at the matter, this is not a profitable company. it's innovation. it's the next step up beyond facebook. it's important with its viral aspects, retweeting and all that that it does to society, however it's not worth $14 billion. twitter will drop, even facebook, zinga, linked in. they dropped after ipo.